Cooler Talk: Sims VS GTA ?

We had a lunchtable conversation that surrounded around one thing: which is more violent ... Sims or GTA? I'm not really leaning to the obvious. I've seen people do way more sadistic stuff in Sims, and unlike GTA - there is absolutely no feedback from the game that what you're doing is wrong (aside from the obvious symptoms of death, crying, etc). At least in GTA someone sometimes tries to stop me when I cap someone for denting my car. Though in GTA I guess an AK-47 does render that moot, so perhaps it's a tie.